Kendall Jenner Says She Doesn’t Get to Be “Hot” That Often

Despite what you might find on Kendall Jenner’s Instagram feed, the model says she’s lacking some heat right now. In a new podcast interview with pH๏τographer Mario Testino, Kendall laments about how her pH๏τo shoots as of late have been mostly tame. Going through pH๏τos they’ve done together, Kendall says, “I don’t get to be H๏τ very often … I love going, like, Sєxual, because I don’t really do it,” before Testino points out that perhaps the industry is “intimidated” to go there with her. Or maybe, he says, it’s because Kendall’s outlets have been magazines like American Vogue, where clothes and fashion take precedence. One recent exception: when Testino pH๏τographed Kendall for V Magazine’s Spring 2017 preview issue. Fashion pH๏τographers and stylists take note — this is what Kendall wants more of:

“I love being transformed,” she says in the podcast. “Everyone always wants to make me myself, because not only am I a model, but I guess I have a name too. So people try. They get confused, they don’t know how to use me sometimes.”

Elsewhere in the interview, Kendall talks about another favorite shoot of hers with Testino – when she posed with BFF Justin Bieber. She also reveals that #ProudMama Kris’s phone background is a 3-year-old pH๏τo of Kendall in a towel, from Testino’s popular towel series, which also featured Karlie Kloss, Cara Delevigne, and Joan Smalls.

It’s unclear if this qualifies as “H๏τ” in Kendall’s books, but let’s just go with a “Sure, why not?!” to be safe.